This 6-minute excerpt is from a longer Phone-Cast between David and Caleb. The overall conversation is about how to approach mid-sized to large businesses and business owners to help them realize the power and necessity of exercising their right to self-determination. Ignorance puts you in a position of being powerless. You cannot create solutions if you are ignorant of the problem. If you are a member and interested in hearing the full Phone-Cast, navigate to
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